Keyboard Warrior | He is also an offensive killer who is good at drawing fouls. Is SGA more stable than peak Harden in the playoffs?

Recently, some American netizens posted a question: Why is Alexander more stable than Harden in the playoffs because he is also an offensive weapon that is good at drawing fouls?

Why is PrimeShaibetterintheplayoffsthanPrimeJamesharden?Bothofhemshootlotsoffreethrowsintheregularseason,butShai’sgametranslatesbetterintheplayoffsthanJamesharden?

Why is Alexander in his prime performing better in the playoffs than Harden in his prime? Both scored frequently through free throws in the regular season, but Alexander's style of play appeared more stable in the playoffs.

[–]RaptorsJwarrior52147pointsanhourago

Shaidoesn 'trunintothe2015-2019Warriorseveryyear.

Raptors fans: Let’s talk about the post... Asia Alexander doesn’t have to face the Warriors from 2015-2019 in the playoffs every year...

[–]Kindly_Letterhead_98[S]2pointsanhourago

Hardenhadlike10pointsingame6shoot ing18%vsthespursin2017lol

Edit:Don 'tknowanyELITEstarwhohadsuchabadgameintheplayoffslol

Fans: Harden seemed to have only scored 10 points in G6 against the Spurs in 2017, with a shooting percentage 18%, hahaha...

Supplement: I really don't know any other top star has played such an eye-catching game in the playoffs, hahahaha...

Note: In the 2017 Western Conference Semifinals G6, the Rockets played against the Spurs, Harden made 2 of 11 shots, only scored 10 points and 7 assists, and sent 6 turnovers, 0 points in the final quarter. In the end, the Rockets were eliminated by the Spurs 2-4..

[–]dogsh1tmods[scorehidden]36minutesago

TheGOATscored8pointsandwasoutscoredbyaroleplayerinthefinals

Fans: What is this... Our GOAT also won 8 points in the finals Points...The score is not as high as that of a role player...

[–]RaptorsJwarrior5217pointsanhourago

HardenisdefaplayoffchokerbutthecompetitionintheWestisnotcomparableimo.ThoseSp urs/Warriorsteams would dominate the current West

Raptors fans: Harden is indeed a soft-footed shrimp in the playoffs, but I think the intensity of competition in the Western Conference at that time was not at the same level as it is now. The Spurs and Warriors in those years could crush the current Western Conference...

[–]Heatfrostfeint3-3 pointsanhourago

Itwentfrom "doesn 'truninto2015-2019Warriorseveryyear "to "ThoseSpurs/Warriorsteam "lol,likeKobesaid,thewayHardenplaysjustdoesn 't workintheplayoffs,hedependswaytoomuchondrawingfouls,Shaicouldstilldoalotofthingsasidefromdrawingfouls,he 'swaymoreconsistentcomparedtoHarden

Heat fans : How did this topic change from "SGA is lucky enough not to encounter the 15-19 Warriors every year" to "Speaking of...the Spurs/Warriors in those years...", hahaha... As Kobe said, Harden's style of play will not work in the playoffs. He relies too much on drawing fouls... And SGA has many methods besides drawing fouls, so he is much more stable than Harden...

[–]RaptorsJwarrior52 13points59minutesago

Thetopofthewestwasstackedwithinsaneteams.Wayhardergauntletthanthecurrentwest.

Raptors fans: Back then, there were so many strong teams in the Western Conference, and it was much harder to break through than it is now...

[–]Thunde rchef_iblocka1point55minutesago

WhatisyourargumentthattheSpursbeattheThunder?Ifeellikeyou 'rearguingbasedonnostalgia

Thunder fans: Why do you say that the Spurs can beat the Thunder now? I feel like you are arguing here purely out of emotion...

[–][LAC]JamesHardenharden-back4points53minutesago

67-15spursand73-9warriorstheyhadcompet ition

Clippers fans: The 67-15 Spurs and the 73-9 Warriors, can you imagine the dimensionality-reducing oppression in the West back then...

[–]Heatfrostfeint30points51minutesago

So that one year, yes?

Heat fans: That’s the year you’re talking about, right?

Note: In the 2015-16 season, the Warriors posted a historic record of 73 wins and 9 losses in the regular season, advancing through the Western Conference; at the same time, the Spurs that season were not far behind, winning 67 wins and 15 losses!

[–]SilverExcellent46791pointanhourago

Imeanit 'sjustthetruth.Shaisgamedoesn 'tnecessarilytranslatebetter.Hesjustnotfacingthe60+winteamshardenwasfacinglikethespursandwarriorsofthattime

Fans: Just telling the truth. SGA is not necessarily more stable than Harden. He just doesn't meet 60+ win teams like the Spurs and Warriors every year like Harden...

[–]Thunderchef_iblocka-4points56minutesago

Theonlywarriorsteaminthatrangethatbeatsahealthythunderarethe2017warriors

Thunder fans: Although the Warriors in those years were invincible, only the 2017 Warriors team that could defeat today's fully healthy Thunder team...

[–]RaptorsJwarrior5217points55minutesago

Y 'allletthechampionshipgettoyourheadifyougenuinelybelievethis

Raptors fans: Do you really believe what you said above? After winning a championship, you really treat yourself like a piece of cake, right?

[–]LakersIMadeThisOn6-28-20152points53minutesago

Yeahno,they 'renotbeatinganyofthoseyears.IfLeBr oncouldbarelydoitonceonamiracle3-1comeback,2025OKCsureisn 'tdoingit.Theirbestchanceisthat2015Warriors.

Lakers fans: Of course I don’t believe it! But pull it down! This Thunder can't beat the Warriors from any year (2016-2019)! Back then, James fought hard to win once with a 1-3 miracle comeback. The Thunder in 2025 will definitely have no chance! Their favorite team to win may be the 2015 Warriors...

[–]GiddeysDiddyParty[scorehidden]49minutesago

theyneedKyrie.all-timelegendaryseriesfromhimcappedoffwiththegamewinner

Fans: The Cavaliers won the championship in 2016 all thanks to Irving! His performance in that round of the finals was epic. He used a three-pointer to bring an end to that historic finals!

[–]Knicksclownus[scorehidden]47minutesago

OkcisverygoodandShaiisoneofthebest.ButcomparingOKCtoCleveland/warriors/spursfromthosetimesisprettysilly.LebronandcurryduringthoseplayoffduelswasequivalenttohavingaJokiconeach team.

Thenaddthe2ndbestshooterofalltimeanddpoyDraymondversuspre-crazykyrieandKevinlove.

TheonlyteamOKCisbeatingisthekyrielessCavs.IttookLeBronandkyriehavingdouble40bombstobeattheHarrisonBarnesversion.

Knicks fans: The Thunder are indeed very strong, and SGA is also a top player! But it's too stupid to compare this Thunder with the Cavaliers/Warriors/Spurs back then... Zhanku's playoff showdown in those years was equivalent to the two Jokic's fight today, it was like Mars hitting the Earth!

Coupled with the second shooter in history and DPOY Dream Chaser, the opponents are still Irving and Love (in non-ultimate form).

The only thing the Thunder can win is the Cavaliers without Irving... You know, back then, James and Ou both scored 40+ before defeating the Warriors (the offense led by Harrison Barnes).

[–]Lakerspokerawz15pointsanhourago

Well firstly, waybetterroster.

Lakers fans: Why is SGA better in the playoffs? First of all, because (this Thunder's) lineup is so much better...

[–]ThunderExtra_Barracuda4415-3pointsanhourago

Secondly, betterplayer.

Thunder fans: Secondly, (Alexander is) a better player~

[–]Kindly_Letterhead_98[S]3pointsanhourago

2 018rocketswasaninsaneroster

Poster: The 2018 Rockets lineup was also awesome...

[–]Lakerspokerawz8pointsanhourago

Greatrosterandonlyreallylosttooneofthebestteamsofalltime.

Lakers fans: The Rockets lineup that year was awesome, and they just lost to It's just one of the strongest teams in history...

[–]CharlotteBobcatsNotManyBuses2pointsanhourago

Untilitwasn 't

Bobcats fans: When the chain drops at the critical moment, the fans of the year will say that the lineup is bad...

[–][SEA]KevinDurantWestleyThe[scorehidden]32minutesag o

And theywereonecoldshootingstreakawayfrombeatingtheKDwarriors….

That warriorsteambeatsthiscurrentthunderteam

Durant fans: If they (the Rockets) hadn’t suddenly suffered a sudden illness and felt cold, they could have almost defeated the Warriors with KD...That Warriors team back then could definitely beat the current Thunder.

Note: In the tiebreaker of the 2018 Western Conference Finals, the Rockets lost to the Warriors 92-101 at home. They made only 7 of 44 three-pointers in the game, including 27 consecutive missed three-pointers, setting an NBA playoff record for three-pointers in a single game.

[–]RocketsTheGargageMan4pointsanhourago

Itisamystery

Rockets fans: Why are the SGA playoffs better? This is an unsolved mystery...

[–]Thanos_SlayerCongSan4points52minutesago

Hardenhadchokesomanyeliminationgamesinhiscareer,youcaneasil ygooglethat

Fans: Harden has fallen behind too many times in life-and-death battles in his career. You will know just by searching...

[–]LakersllorTMasterFlex5pointsanhourago

SGAtakes hisphysicalconditioningveryseriously.YouwillneverseeafatShai.Beingconsistentisnotameme.

Lakers fans: SGA takes the management of physical condition very seriously, you will never see one A paunchy Alexander... staying stable is no joke...

[–]kobbled2points55minutesago

watchthewarriors-rocketsseries

Fans: SGA is better than Harden? You'd better go and watch the Rockets vs. Warriors series first...

[–]lexington59[scorehidden]38minutesago

1ofthemis3pointshotorattherimattemptorbustplayer,1isamidrang especialist.

3pointshotsarenotoriouslyinconsistent,evencurryhasawfulgamesfrom3,andina7gameseriesbeingheliocentricmakesiteasierforteamsto preparoundandkeyinonthe1playerplushardenhasonlyreallyhad1reallycompleterosterevenclosetothethunderslevelandthattookanextremecoldstreakforthemtolosewithmissingover203sinarow.

Whereassgaplaysonastackedteamandplaysamoredriveandkickstyle,thatisalittlehardertoprepagainst.

That plussgaisjustreallyfuckingeliteatdrivingbetterthanhardenhasevenbeenandhardeninhisprimewasagooddriver,that 'showgoodsgaisatdrivingmakesitsoyouareforcedtofoulorjustkindaforcehimintoamidrangeshot(andmidrangearemuchmoreconsistentthan3sattheexpenseofbeinglessefficientunlessyouhitaninsa nerate)

With3sit 'sexpectedtohavetheoccasional20percentgamefollowedbya40,followedbya33,followedbya50.

Whereasmidrangeit 'smire40-50 -45-40,ectsoit 'sjusteasiertohaveabetterbaselineandarelesspronetobadshootingnights

Fans: One (Harden) is either shooting three-pointers or attacking the basket. If these two tricks don't work, he will stop immediately; the other (Alexander) is a mid-range expert.

Three-pointers are a notoriously unstable skill, and even Curry had three-pointers that were inaccurate... Moreover, in the seven-game series, the ball-carrying core style was more likely to be targeted by opponents, and Harden only really had a complete lineup that was close to the level of the Thunder once (2018), and that time they lost because of their extreme coldness (missing more than 20 three-pointers in a row)...

And SG A's team has a deep lineup, and he plays more breakout-style basketball, so this style of play is more difficult to target... In addition, SGA's breakthrough ability is simply elite level, better than Harden at any time (Harden's breakthrough was actually good at his peak), which shows how strong SGA's breakthrough is, forcing you to only foul, or barely force him to take a mid-range shot (mid-range is much more stable than three-pointers, at the expense of slightly lower efficiency, unless you are ridiculously accurate).

If you shoot three-pointers, maybe 20% in one game, 40% in the next game, 33% in the next game, and 50% in the next game. It is normal for the fluctuations to be large...

And the mid-range is more like 40%, 50%, 45%, 40%, etc., so it is easier to have a better basic accuracy, and it is less likely to encounter a bad cold night...

[–]Hu mdiddledeedee[scorehidden]31minutesago

Wellsaid.Anotherreasonthemidrangeisanadvantageisthatitisalotmorereliabletodrawfo ulsthere.Especiallyintheplayoffs.

Whenyou 'reanelitemid-rangethreatit 'saloteasiertogetpeopletobiteonpumpfakesanduseyourfootwork/midpostgametodrawfoulsasopposedtohardenstricksforpeoplereachingonhisdrives/fallingdownoncontested3s.

Fans: Well said! Another advantage of the mid-range is that it is easier to draw fouls, especially in the playoffs...

When you are a top mid-range threat, it is easier for you to use fake moves to point out opponents, and use your footsteps and elbow post skills to draw fouls. This is similar to Harden's method of relying on opponents to raise his hands to get the ball. ) or the trick of falling down when shooting three-pointers is different...

[–]Thunderthetalkinghawk3pointsanhourago

Shaihasbeenkingofth eclutchduringtheplayoffs.Anytimethegameorserieswasontheline,hedidwhatheneededtodofortheteamtowin.PlushavinganincredibleteamofplayersboughtintotheirsystemandcultureisHUGE.

Thunder fans: Alexander has been a key player in the playoffs. Whenever a game or series comes to a life-and-death moment, he can make the necessary contribution to the team's win...coupled with an amazing team that believes in the team's system and culture, it's a perfect match!

[–]gcoles3pointsanhourago

Hegets the calls in the playoffs, and makesshisshots.Alsohasaverygoodsupportingcast

Fans: Alexander is more stable because he can get whistles in the playoffs and make shots. At the same time, there is also very good teammate support..

[–]Spiritual-Bobcat56353pointsanhourago

Primehardenwasbetteronoffense,butnotenoughtoclosethegapind defensewithprimeShai.GoingSGA

Fans: Peak Harden's offense is better, but it is not enough to make up for the gap between him and peak Alexander on the defensive end...I choose SGA...

[–]Thunderchef_iblocka2poin ts57minutesago

Shaiisanelitetoughshotmakerwhichtranslateswelltotheplayoffs.

Thunder fans: Alexander is a player who is very good at difficult shots. A British-level shooter, this is very useful in the playoffs...

[–]HornetsRelativeHand47531pointanhourago

Straight.Threes.

Hornets fans: To put it bluntly...three-pointers kill people!

[–]PelicansAHSfav[scorehidden]22minutesago

Mostlyreferees

Pelicans fans: Alexander mainly relies on referees...

[–]Heatfrostfeint31pointa nhourago

Theonlysimilarplaystyletheyhaveisdrawingfouls.ShaidoesalotmorethanHardenanddoesn 'tsolelyreliesonshootingfreethrows.Like Kobesaid,Hardenplaystyledoesnotworkintheplayoffs,anditshows.

Now,inHardensdefense,JamesHardenwasbasicallytheRocketsoffense,oncehisoffensedoesnotwork,it 'shardforthemtowinbecausethentheywentfromHardenBasketballtojustthrowittosomeonehotandhopeitworks.It 'sverysimil artothearlydaysofTatumCeltics.SGAhasJDubashissecondoption,andthewholeteamisdefensivemindedincludingSGA.Hardenisgreatinthepostindefensebutotherthan,he 'satrafficcone,there 'sreallynotmuchhecandobecausehespendswaymoreenergytryingtoscore,thatcombinewithhisconditioning.. it 'sjustarecipefordisaster.Hegetslazyandshutdown.

Heat fans: The only similarity in their playing style is to draw fouls... But SGA does much more than Harden. He doesn't just rely on free throws... As Kobe said, Harden's style of play will not work in the playoffs, and facts have proven this...

At the same time, to be fair to Harden, he was basically the Rockets' entire offensive system. Once his offense failed, it would be difficult for the team to win, because at that time, the team's tactics would change from "Harden's tactical system" to "whoever has the hot hand will come." This is very similar to Tatum's early Celtics... SGA has Jaylen Williams as the second leader, and the entire team, including SGA himself, is a defensive player. Harden's low post defense is good, but other than that he is just a roadblock. He really can't do much because he spends more energy on offense, coupled with his physical condition... it is a disaster... When he gets tired, he will become lazy and completely shut down...

[–]Own_Elk_543[scorehidden]42minutesago

Didyo uevenwatchHarden????Dudewasamultipletimeassistleaderandjustallaroundoffensiveengine.AlsowhydoyoukeepquotingKobe?Kobestruggledintheplay offstooafterShaqleftandpeoplesaidtheexactsamethingabouthisplaystyleandthenthelakersgothimbetterteammatesandallofsuddentheplaystylestuffdidn 'tmatter.PrimeHardenprettymuchexclusivelylosttotheWarriorsintheplayoffsandineverymatchuptheyhadthebetterteam.

Fans: Have you ever seen Harden play? ? ? This guy has won several assists titles and is an all-around offensive engine! And why do you always quote Kobe? Kobe also struggled in the playoffs after O'Neal left. People also said the same thing about his style of play. Then the Lakers found him better teammates, and then suddenly his style of play didn't matter anymore...At his peak, Harden almost only lost to the Warriors in the playoffs, and every time they faced off, the Warriors were the stronger team...

[–]Heatfrostfeint3 [scorehidden]36minutesago

DidyoureadanythingIjustsaid?StopspendingyourtimedefendinghimsomuchandreadwhatIjustsaid.Laker splayedKobebasketballuntiltheygotbetterteammates.RocketsplayedHardenbasketballevenwhentheydidnotwork.Isn 'tobviousonceCP3wentdown,theylostingame7?

It 'sjustdumbthattheHardenfansalwaystriestodefendHardenwith "wellhegotunlucky,wentagainstWarri orsdynasty ".Brother,atthispoint,HardenslegacyisbasicallylosingagainsttheWarriors.LOSING.HardenfansreallyshouldtryharderdefendingtheirplayerlikehewonMVPagainstLeBronJames.Maybeyoushouldpraisehimasoneofthebestoffensiveengineoffalltime,butitjustdoes n 'tworkintheplayoffs.Bothcanberight.SGAisjustabetterplayercomparedtoHardenbecauseheplayedbothside,sowhenhisoffensedoesn 'twork,atleasthehasdefense.WhatthefuckdoesHardendowhenhisoffensedoesn 'twork?Miss27straight3points?

Heat fans: Did you read what I just said? Don't just think about defending Harden, read carefully what I said first... Before the Lakers improved their lineup, they had no choice but to play Kobe basketball (Kobe is the ball-handling core). On the other hand, the Rockets did it by force. No matter whether the effect is good or not, Harden is always the ball-handling core, and they lost in G7 as soon as Paul was injured. Isn't this obvious (Harden's ball-carrying core play will not work in the playoffs)?

Harden fans always use "He was unlucky to run into the Warriors dynasty" to defend him. This is so stupid... Brother, at this point, Harden's reputation is basically labeled as "losing to the Warriors"... He is a loser, you understand? Harden fans should really use some stronger evidence to defend him! For example, Harden is the one who stole the MVP from James! Maybe there is nothing wrong with praising him as one of the best offensive engines in history, but it just doesn't work in the playoffs. These two points are not conflicting... SGA is a better player than Harden because he integrates offense and defense, so when his offense doesn't work, at least he still has defense. On the other hand, what is Harden doing when his offense is not working? Missed 27 three-pointers in a row?